[Request] Statusbar shows remaining size incomplete torrents

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[Request] Statusbar shows remaining size incomplete torrents

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I have a suggestion: The statusbar currently shows a lot of useful information. Such as free drive space. I'd like it if it could also show the size of the remaining data to download on downloading torrents.

I'm one of those people who are perpetually low on drive space. I use whatever I have, regardless of how much I have. So for me it'd be very useful to see at a glance if I have enough free space to complete the currently downloading torrents, or if I need to delete some files to free up space.
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Re: Statusbar show remaining size of incomplete torrents

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Kvaks wrote:I'd like it if [the statusbar] could show the size of the remaining data to download on downloading torrents. It'd be very useful to see at a glance if I have enough free space to complete the currently downloading torrents.
Not all users have 1 drive or partition. Each torrent can be saved to a different partition, which for you, would mean the status bar would have to either display the info of each individual partition or be dynamic and only display the free space of the partition corresponding to the currently-selected torrent. Even though the latter would be far easier to manage with pixel constraints on the GUI, a dynamic torrent-specific field would be out of place among the other application-wide fields on the statusbar.

It would make more sense for such data to be displayed on the Status or Details tabs and/or as a column in the main table of torrents.
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Re: Statusbar show remaining size of incomplete torrents

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This is really a plugin request, so moving to that forum.
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funnel wrote:Not all users have 1 drive or partition.
Sure, but Deluge already chooses to display some information on available space. My statusbar (see attachement) has one hard drive icon and displays available space on partition on which my primary download directory is located. I do have torrents seeding from other partitions. I'm fine with Deluge current behaviour of only displaying available space on the primary download partition.

Counting the remaining download size of incomplete torrents does not complicate this issue any further, as it is not a function of partitions but only of torrent statuses.
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Re: Statusbar show remaining size of incomplete torrents

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Kvaks wrote:I'm fine with Deluge current behaviour of only displaying available space on the primary download partition.
Ok, that makes it easier then.
Kvaks wrote:Counting the remaining download size of incomplete torrents... is not a function of partitions but only of torrent statuses.
If the feature only displays the total size of the remaining data to download, from all incomplete torrents combined, doesn't that conflict with the real purpose of the feature? Notably:
Kvaks wrote:to see at a glance if I have enough free space
The total remaining download size of incomplete torrents would not be very useful if each incomplete torrent is being downloaded to different partitions. Not all users download all their torrents to just 1 partition, let alone the primary download partition. If the feature was intended to show the total remaining download size of incomplete torrents being saved only to the primary download partition, then it would be accurate enough to be useful with the current statusbar free space info.

If I'm misinterpreting anything, please clarify.
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We're talking about two features here: The display of information about (1) free space on primary download partition and (2) total size of all remaining downloads. The combination of those two seems to me particularly useful. Your objection is only relevant to (1), but that feature already exists in Deluge. My suggestion is to add feature (2), which in my view is useful on its own and useful in combination with existing feature (1).
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Kvaks wrote:The combination of those two seems to me particularly useful.
Agreed, very much so. Perhaps a different way of doing this would be a pop-up warning when a torrent is first added, when the folder of an incomplete torrent is moved, or when the priority of any of its files is changed from "do not download" to any of the "allow download" priorities. Something like, "Warning: Not enough free space on this partition to be completed." The drawback would be that the user couldn't monitor it at a glance, so that falls short of the goal.
Kvaks wrote:My suggestion is to add feature (2), which in my view is useful on its own
On its own, it would not tell the user whether it could fit onto their computer. To achieve your goal, it needs to be compared to the amount of available free space. The amount of free space is already displayed, but only for the primary partition. Therefore, in order to make a comparison, the feature would have to either:
  • calculate (but not necessarily display) the free space of all partitions to which torrents are being downloaded, combined
  • or, calculate (but not necessarily display) the free space of all partitions, combined
  • or, only consider the torrents being downloaded to the primary partition
P.S. I'm not objecting to your proposal; I'm trying to refine it.
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Re: [Request] Statusbar shows remaining size incomplete torr

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funnel wrote:
Kvaks wrote:which in my view is useful on its own
On its own, it would not tell the user whether it could fit onto their computer.
Right, but there are other conceivable uses of such information. Just to pick one: Say you're on a metered internet connection and only have such and such amount left of your data transfer quota. Then it could be useful to know the total size of remaining torrent downloads.
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Re: [Request] Statusbar shows remaining size incomplete torr

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Kvaks wrote:other conceivable uses
Now you're changing the goal. :P ...which is ok. Yes, the initial proposal is a small step toward many possible goals, but it presented a very specific use for the data, so it's that on which I've been focusing while proposing revisions.
Kvaks wrote:Just to pick one: Say you're on a metered internet connection and only have such and such amount left of your data transfer quota. Then it could be useful to know the total size of remaining torrent downloads.
Same problem as with the partitions. It needs to be compared to the remaining quota. Alone, it would not tell the user "at a glance" whether enough quota exists. The user would either have to manually look up their remaining quota themselves in a separate application or widget, thereby foregoing the "at a glance" elegance, or they would have to enter their quota in the feature's preferences to help deluge estimate the remaining quota for displaying a concise statusbar field. (uTorrent has Transfer Cap options which do something similar but with no display)

The remaining size to download is very easy to calculate and display, but its usefullness for the end-user can be improved by clearly defining the user's underlying desire. If you don't mind manually looking up the free space of your partitions or your remaining internet quota yourself, then the initial proposal would have to be revised to exclude the specific purpose (free space) which constrains the "at a glance" desire/requirement. This, in my view, would make the proposal extremely clear but ruin the feature's potential effectiveness in achieving the excluded purpose. If that's alright with you, then at least I would consider it to be very clearly defined and would stop trying to improve the design since no specific purposes would exist.
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