About the User Interface of Deluge

[ambipro]

Right so you're bitching just to bitch because you don't prefer the new icon and couldn't be bothered to understand theming GTK on windows.

Got it.

My point stands, all your artistic statements about how art styles and their value/beauty comparatively looks is subjective to YOU. Whether you find others agree, I would venture that the author of deluge likes their choice and that's why they chose it. They are not writing the software and designing the UI/UX for one particular person other than themself.

I don't see the point in discussing this further, you're using deluge's icon to somehow comment on society as a whole, and this is a support forum for a torrent client.

Go on reddit or 4chan bro.

[friend]

You've already shown that your reading comprehension is lacking, and your understanding, narrow; how would one in that state be capable of grasping abstract, objective, universal, transcendental concepts? You've already shown your incapability to comprehend these; you insist on the intellectual degradation of subjectivism; and you've debased yourself in your last post.

[ambipro]

Ah, the typical response one gets online from someone presented with another who won't simply yield/capitulate to their argument. Go from arguing points in a debate/discussion to personal attacks. If ever there was something to call debased.

I can't resist engaging when I'm being trolled.

You've already shown that your reading comprehension is lacking, and your understanding, narrow; how would one in that state be capable of grasping abstract, objective, universal, transcendental concepts? You've already shown your incapability to comprehend these; you insist on the intellectual degradation of subjectivism; and you've debased yourself in your last post.

I thought we were discussing whether art style choice was something subjective. I'm curious where you came up with the claim that any of art was objective. Art is designed to evoke emotions and feelings, and that is, by nature, the opposite of objective (https://www.google.com/search?q=define+objective)

Evidently, "taste" (preference) is something you think is not a choice or opinion! Sorry for being so inept in thinking there was ever a way other than the one you explicitly follow or like! Can someone appreciate a color or music you dislike? I thought there was something for almost everyone, but you've shown me that is wrong! These people who are creating things for a reason other than to appease "friend" and those who agree with everything he thinks - what gall.

One does not need formal education in any particular art to have decency and good taste; these spring forth from basic virtues.

Your post further goes on to "argue" one cannot be "decent" or have "good virtue" while still appreciating an art style you personally do not like. Wow. Personal attacks on a collective group without any foundation to support it. Did you read this in a book or is this simply your own conjecture?

Good people cannot like what you view as "ugly"? Most mothers love and think their children are beautiful, despite some even having birth defects, it's inherent in their nature. I suppose since these are all your definitive rules, they also must lack good virtue and decency as well.

You seem to have the capacity for intelligence, but perhaps lack general empathy and emotional intelligence. You're so quick to attack anyone who proposes alternatives to your beliefs or personal narrative, disagrees with your reality, or presents _ANY_ form of disagreement for that matter.

Believe me, I've got no reading comprehension problems buddy. I understand what you're writing, I'm just not drinking your kool-aid.

[friend]

Ah, the typical response one gets online from someone presented with another who won't simply yield/capitulate to their argument. Go from arguing points in a debate/discussion to personal attacks.

See:

Right so you're bitching just to bitch because you don't prefer the new icon and couldn't be bothered to understand theming GTK on windows.
Got it.
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Go on r*ddit or ...

You are the one who lowered the level; I will now show why I said that your reading comprehension is lacking etc.

Your first post (here) was irrelevant; the solution you proposed is exactly what I asked in the first place: whether it's possible to change the UI, which, afterwards, I said I became acquainted with (here), and considered it not being worth the inconvenience to try and change it; even called it relatively beautiful (here).
With your mention of the fact that Deluge is free software, I agreed, and said that I am grateful for it. You thought I was angry, perhaps because of my haughty tone.
Then, in your second post (here), again referring to the GUI, you mentioned something I clearly knew already: that Deluge uses the library GTK for its user interface. Then, talked about changing the icon, which, I said in the very beginning, that can easily be changed.

Notice how I did not, at any point, ask anyone to change anything in the program itself, neither the UI nor the icon. I expressed my insatisfaction, our friend above asked why I think that, and I proceeded to expound on it, in great detail, with parallels, figures of speech and historical facts directly or indirectly related to this particular instance of artistic degeneration; I went from the effect caused by degenerate art on its observers to abstract concepts. You insisted on the intellectual degradation that is subjectivism. What you said is essentially "you don't like it, change it, or don't use it." You reduced all I discussed to subjective, personal feelings.

I thought we were discussing whether art style choice was something subjective. I'm curious where you came up with the claim that any of art was objective. Art is designed to evoke emotions and feelings, and that is, by nature, the opposite of objective ...
Evidently, "taste" (preference) is something you think is not a choice or opinion! Sorry for being so inept in thinking there was ever a way other than the one you explicitly follow or like! Can someone appreciate a color or music you dislike? I thought there was something for almost everyone, but you've shown me that is wrong! These people who are creating things for a reason other than to appease "friend" and those who agree with everything he thinks - what gall.

Again you've misinterpreted what's been disclosed. My discourse never claimed that art is objective -- that's absurd; it concerns the degeneration of arts in general. I suggest paying close attention to my previous posts. You're attacking your own misinterpretations, after reducing everything I said to subjectivism, opinion, personal feelings.

Your post further goes on to "argue" one cannot be "decent" or have "good virtue" while still appreciating an art style you personally do not like. Wow. Personal attacks on a collective group without any foundation to support it. Did you read this in a book or is this simply your own conjecture?

Good people cannot like what you view as "ugly"? Most mothers love and think their children are beautiful, despite some even having birth defects, it's inherent in their nature. I suppose since these are all your definitive rules, they also must lack good virtue and decency as well.

Another misinterpretation: the fact that good taste is independent of formal education does not mean that the formally educated, by necessity, have no good taste. The fact that that particular art style may please someone does not necessarily make him nonvirtuous. You're incorrectly drawing conclusions from the given statements.
You mentioned an example of perception of physical beauty, that of a mother and child; where does it spring from? From a transcendental concept called love, which is inherent in parents. Were the deformed child not her son, or any subject of her love, would she have the same opinion about him? The birth defect is a defect, a corruption; without a definite form to compare to, there can be no concept of deformation. Were the child not deformed, he would be more beautiful. To define deformed things as beautiful is against nature, intuition, reason. Again, here several parallels are observed in our days. I said above why that is done.

You seem to have the capacity for intelligence, but perhaps lack general empathy and emotional intelligence. You're so quick to attack anyone who proposes alternatives to your beliefs or personal narrative, disagrees with your reality, or presents _ANY_ form of disagreement for that matter.

Again, what I said about the solutions you proposed. Again, personal feelings, subjectivism, et caetera.

[ambipro]

I think the last quote you made from my post is only reinforced further with your response, sadly I don't believe you grasp the significance.

I'm going to sign off this thread, it's devolved into something unrecognizable for this forum and my postings.

Still, I'd like to tell you that while it's possible I may have misinterpreted some, perhaps even much, of your posts - according to you - it wasn't deliberate and could have been prevented if you made less cryptic posts instead of writing college essays. Not all of us are modern art/poli sci majors.

Good luck.

[friend]

Still, I'd like to tell you that while it's possible I may have misinterpreted some, perhaps even much, of your posts - according to you - it wasn't deliberate and could have been prevented if you made less cryptic posts instead of writing college essays. Not all of us are modern art/poli sci majors.

I expressed contempt for modern-day formal education. What has been said has nothing to do with specific knowledge about these fields; from much nobler sciences it springs forth. I said something about the writing style, earlier.
Contemplate these beautiful words later; the ideas they convey you shall comprehend.

Good luck.

Thank you friend, you too.