Why Deluge wasn't chosen as default in Ubuntu

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Frosty
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Re: Why Deluge wasn't chosen as default in Ubuntu

Post by Frosty »

I'm Ubuntu user, but i don't want to see Deluge as default client on Ubuntu. Ubuntu needs as simple soft as it posible by the default. Torrents is most complicated p2p system i know and it needs suitable tools to use it, not the one-button-window "click and forget", witch you cant configure. Deluge devs has their own ideology and they mustn't follow Ubuntu's one. Russian IT saying "More clients! Good and different!" ;)
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Re: Why Deluge wasn't chosen as default in Ubuntu

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I think it's stupid that they'd complain about going through a configuration dialog. They have several default apps that make you do that... let's see... pidgin, evolution, ekiga....
Anycase, I think it's better for you all to keep your own dev philosophy, because as it is deluge is pretty great and I'd figure that it's great as a result of whatever principals you used in developing it.
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Re: Why Deluge wasn't chosen as default in Ubuntu

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Testing Hardy, I tried Transmission 1.06 quite some time.

While I must admit that it's nice, easy and reliable (it uses miniupnp-client), the GTK version just doesn't compare to the Cocoa version.
Additionally, it doesn't support multiple trackers and editing them - meaning you are stuck with the first one, even if it's dead.
Finish notifications and GTK progress bars will only be included from 1.10 on, too.

So it's a nice step up from the cruel default gnome implementation... but it doesn't quite compare to Deluge.
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Re: Why Deluge wasn't chosen as default in Ubuntu

Post by j1232 »

I wish it were . . . Transmission has speed limitations and well is just lame . . . .
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Re: Why Deluge wasn't chosen as default in Ubuntu

Post by pyther »

j1232 wrote:I wish it were . . . Transmission has speed limitations and well is just lame . . . .
So just install deluge.

It appears that ubuntu is trying to become as easy, if not easier than windows xp, while still looking different. It is a good thing that there are multiple distro's out there because I would probably get irritated with ubuntu. Linux is about choice. Being a default for ubuntu should not matter at all and it appears that the dev team has the same thoughts. Ubuntu has a very specific goal.

I can see where deluge could be challenging for the end user (aka dumb user) to use. For the majority of the Linux population right now, deluge is not hard at all, as a matter of fact its a piece of cake.

Personally, I believe that we will see torrent clients in the near feature, where you simply click on a torrent file, it asks you where you want to download the torrent to, and you forget about it. This is really the only way the "dumb user" will use torrents and I think once this type of client comes to be mainstream, many more website will use torrents, instead of direct downloads.

In summary just keep deluge how it is and don't try to suite one distro's needs.

EDIT: Sorry, I just realized the time stamp, over a month old!!! My bad!
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Re: Why Deluge wasn't chosen as default in Ubuntu

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Ok, so the _real_ reason why Transmission was included by default in ubuntu is because they were there first. I was there when they decided it. first, someone said that the default gnome-bittorrent client wasn't good enough. The general consensus was that "yeah, sure, you're right. but whatever. we don't wanna diverge from upstram" (link).

one weeks later transmission was proposed (link). I tried to make them look at Deluge, since I think it's a better client (link, my message quoted)

I realized that if the deluge-team would cooperate with Ubuntu, deluge would be inclued by default, so I contacted the deluge dev-list about this opportunity but they didn't seem too excited about it (link). Granted, I never joined IRC to talk to them, because I saw that it wouldn't do much difference.

Do that clear things up?
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