comedian wrote:Sammi wrote:
Ergo there is no Deluge support for Mac.
Not trying to pick on you Sammi, but the complaints here to remove Mac as a supported paltform(sic) essentially state that Mac as a supported platform should be removed because compiling Deluge on OSX is not easy.
That, frankly, is bullshit.
Deluge is a source-only distribution (with Windows being excepted). Third parties pre-compiling linux packages for the faint of heart does NOT make any Linux platform "supported". It only makes installing it on that particular flavor easier for people who don't know what they're doing. And the third-parties providing those packages are not necessarily part of the Deluge development team. Linux is a supported platform, but your particular flavor may not be supported by the Deluge development team. In fact, if you have a question about compiling Deluge on Linux, or with Deluge not working with "your" Linux, you'll probably be directed to the respective package developers, rather than answered by a Deluge Dev.
Does that mean Linux (or that flavor of Linux) is not supported? Nope. It just means the Devs don't spoon-feed or hand hold. Pretty much the case everywhere in the open-source world. Consider yourself lucky that someone who knows what they're doing re-packaged the Deluge source to make your life easier. But be clear, if you can't Deluge running on your flavor of Linux, THAT IS NOT THE DELUGE DEVELOPER'S PROBLEM.
The product can be successfully compiled and run on OSX, it's just not easy. Difficult to compile does not equate to unsupported. Supported means it's been tested and works. This is the case with OSX.
Is it hard to make work on OSX? Yup.
Does it work on OSX? Absolutely. I've successfully installed it on Leopard 10.5.6-10.5.8 and Snow Leopard 10.6.2-10.6.4 on a variety of platforms, Mac-mini; MacBook, MacBook Pro, Hackint0sh; and even running in a VM under Windows. And, as long as I've followed the instructions, I've never had a problem getting it to run that wasn't addressed somewhere on the forums.
Just because it's not easy or it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't work, or isn't supported.
It just means it's open-source.
And, as I've often seen in many many forum posts in many other forums in the open source world; If you don't like it, teach yourself how to make it work, and contribute the solution back to the community.
Otherwise, find a different product.
Not trying to pick on you, comedian, but claiming that a product is 'supported' on a platform because the source code's been released and a small handful of people have somehow managed to hack together some libraries and tools that allow the program to run on top of another framework after hours of compiling it locally *on a specific set of older versions of dependencies* is like claiming that the philosophers stone grants immorality.
That, frankly, is bullshit.
If this application was 'supported' on mac, there'd be a .dmg that worked with cocoa and didn't break when you updated your computer. Please have a look at the following:
mozilla firefox
mozilla thunderbird
libreoffice
openoffice
vlc
miro
audacity
gimp
nvu
freemind
mplayer
blender
scribus
codeblocks
eclipse
ogg vorbis
... I could go on, seriously.
I love deluge on my linux computers. It's the best. But it's simply not supported on Mac. (It's not supported on my mac, 10.6.8 with the current set of libraries I'm required to have on them that the deluge build process currently does not work with).
Releasing source is exactly how you 'support' an application on linux. That way, my distribution supplier compiles the binaries (or if I'm impatient, I do) and it's available on my distro. There's not another step involved. That's it. You're done.
Unfortunately, that's not how it works for either m$ windows or apple macs, and stubbornly thinking that it does it to completely ignore the majority of mac users, the majority of computer users, and some basic facts about the way the operating systems work. If you'd like to claim ignorance, just take a visit to the apple store and look around. Go to Sourceforge and browse all the windows binaries.
In any case, I'm going with a different tool until deluge is actually supported. I won't bother reading any more forums.